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10 Agustus 2015 14.57 (UTC)

Selama ini proyek Gambar pilihan (GP) cuman diurus bagian pengusulannya (itu pun masih nggak terlalu banget), tapi saya baru sadari bahwa pada Wikipedia:Gambar pilihan/Topik ternyata masih belum di-update sejak 2009. Oh ya, berhubung karena semenjak 2009 jumlah slot GP-nya meningkat, pastilah jika semua GP dimasukkan situ semua bakal membludak, maka dari itu sekalian dibuat kaya versi halaman Wikipedia bahasa Inggris-nya donk yakni dibikin jadi sub-sub halaman gitu (NB: subhalaman yang masih ada saat ini cuman Wikipedia:Gambar pilihan/Binatang doank, yang lainnya belum) Mohon dibantu ya pengerjaan peng-update-an ini --Erik Fastman (bicara) 14 Agustus 2015 11.08 (UTC)[balas]

VisualEditor News #4—2015

Elitre (WMF), 14 Agustus 2015 22.28 (UTC)[balas]

Wiki labels & Revision Scoring as a Service for Indonesian Wikipedia

Hello Indonesian Wikipedia,

I apologize for my complete lack of Indonesian skills. I would most welcome if my post is translated to Indonesian.

So computers are very good at crunching numbers. Your average calculator can out smart you in arithmetic. However computers are terrible at pretty much in everything else. Programming computers to under take any task no matter how simple beyond computing tends to be very difficult. This is where Artificial Intelligence comes in. With Artificial Intelligence we teach computers how to solve problems without explicit programming for the solution. This is what we are doing.

We are working on a project called m:Research:Revision scoring as a service which aims to provide quality control Artificial Intelligence infrastructure for Mediawiki and Wikimedia projects. We already have our system implemented and running on Azerbaijani, English, French, Indonesian, Persian, Portuguese, Spanish, Turkish and Vietnamese editions on Wikipedia. We are hoping to adapt our tool to serve Indonesian language as well as a number of other languages.

We are currently mainly focusing on vandalism detection where we provide an API (m:ORES) that provides scores. We have made an effort to keep our system robust.

The examples I'll provide are based on a machine learning algorithm that was trained to use 20,000 reverted edits. This is kind of modelling is problematic for two reasons. First is, there are non-vandalism related reasons for edits to be reverted such as mistakes from new users, this would develop such an unproductive bias. Second problem would be it lacks the ability to distinguish good faith users from malicious ones. To demonstrate our system I will give three examples from English wikipedia. I have picked these three semi-random.

  • Score of 90% diff en:Moncef Mezghanni
    • As visible in the diff, it is clearly something that shouldn't be welcome on English wikipedia. Algorithms confidence also matches my human assessment.
  • Score of 75% diff en:Monin
    • When I look at the diff it isn't immediately clear to me if this should be reverted. Detailed look reveals that prior version had more neutral information, but new version at a glance isn't exactly clear cut vandalism, albeit spammy. Algorithms confidence drops just as my human assessment.
  • Score of 19% diff en:Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back
    • As visible in the diff this edit clearly improves the article. The algorithms confidence plummets as well. Algorithm is more confident that this edit should NOT be reveted.

We are also working towards a system for article quality where we use existing assessment by en:Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Teamto train our system. We only have this system on English wikipedia at the moment but we would be more than happy to expand to other language editions. I am uncertain if Indonesian Wikipedia has a similar quality assessment scale. I have picked 5 random articles to demonstrate this.

Typical problem is that humans typically do not re-asses articles over time or articles are never assessed in the first place. Our system circumvents this problem by automating this.

We have already gathered some language features such as bad words and informal words.

We need a localization of en:Wikipedia:Labels serving as our local landing page. After this is done, we would like to start an edit quality campaign where we request the local community to hand code/label ~2000 revisions labeling them productive/damaging and good faith/bad faith. This would be similar to the campaign on English Wikipedia en:Wikipedia:Labels/Edit quality.

After this we will be able to generate scores for revisions that is usable by gadgets such as ScoredRevisions as well as (potentially) tools like huggle. If community desires it, it can even be used to create a local vandalism reversion bot.

So in a nutshell our algorithm relies on community input to support the community. Feel free to ask any questions. Either here, on meta or on IRC on the freenode server and #wikimedia-ai channel where we hang out. You can also reach us at https://github.com/wiki-ai

-- とある白い猫 chi? 17 Agustus 2015 11.36 (UTC)[balas]

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17 Agustus 2015 16.17 (UTC)

Periode baru pemilihan gambar pilihan telah dimulai! (periode 3 dan 4 tahun 2016)

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MediaWiki message delivery (bicara) 19 Agustus 2015 00.30 (UTC)[balas]

24 Agustus 2015 13.02 (UTC)

Your attention please: VisualEditor feedback will be centralized on www.mediawiki.org

Hello. The VisualEditor team would like to inform you of a plan to redirect local pages for VisualEditor feedback to the board on mediawiki.org a few weeks from now. This applies to all the wikis where such pages are inactive or have low traffic, including yours. When this happens, editors will be free to use their own language to write on the mediawiki.org's page - although English is the most popular language there. Even feedback left from within VisualEditor with the built-in tool will be posted to the board on mediawiki.org.

Click on the image to enlarge it: location of the built-in feedback tool in VisualEditor.
Click on the image to enlarge it: screenshot of the new feedback board on mediawiki.org.

Having all the feedback on a single, centralized place mainly means getting faster, more frequent replies and more attention from a higher number of people, including the people who are building the software. It also means chances are high, that editors will find that someone else has already written there about the issues or requests they wanted to post.

Maintaining a local page instead can be cumbersome: it needs to be checked frequently in case someone reports urgent issues. Old threads need to be archived from time to time. Off-topic comments should be removed to keep readability. Feedback left there is sometimes not easily understandable or actionable at all.

We think this will help us in being more effective while processing feedback from a larger pool of wikis, not just the biggest ones. If you have any comments about this announcement, please leave them at my talk page. Thanks for your understanding, Elitre (WMF) 27 Agustus 2015 17.40 (UTC)[balas]

Periode baru pemilihan gambar pilihan telah dimulai! (periode 4 dan 5 tahun 2016)

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