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Logo of your Wiki

Hello, I've noticed, that you're overwriting the logo of your wiki (that one on the top left) in the local CSS file since August 2010 (diff). The logo currently used by your CSS file is identical with the one used per default, only that it's uploaded on this wiki and not on commons (I assume it's because you want to be able to change it). Because overwriting the logo in the site CSS has several downsides, I hereby ask, whether you agree to changing the logo to the one used in the CSS and to delete the section out of the CSS file. That will have no visible effect, it's only a way cleaner way to do it than it's currently done. (You should fully protect (upload=sysop / move=sysop) the logo, as it's highly visible, by the way) - Hoo man (bicara) 5 Agustus 2012 18.32 (UTC)

Hi. I agree that the line could be deleted, and per your solution on IRC channel, you would change the config so that we could still upload logo variations in local version, which would still show as the site logo. Waiting for community consensus untuk 12 August for this proposal to be implemented. Thanks Hoo! ‑Bennylin ^{【celoteh】} 22.49, 6 Agustus 2012 (WIB)

Done :) Configuaration change, CSS diff - Hoo man (bicara) 14 Agustus 2012 20.19 (UTC)

GibraltarpediA

'Domesday Book' Please translate the text below into the language of your wiki We would like to invite you to contribute to the GibraltarpediA project, the world's first WIkipedia City. The project needs writers, photographers, translators and others to help build the first wiki city which bridges Europe and Africa. We are going to transform Gibraltar and the surrounding areas in Morocco and Spain into areas rich with encyclopedic content immediately accessible using QR codes and NFC on plaques for visitors and local people. There are prizes to reward contributors in the Gibraltarpedia Multilingual challenge for the best editors, photographs and cartographers... whoever you are. More at Gibraltarpedia.org

'Domesday Book'

What does this mean? ‑Bennylin ^【komen】 21.15, 20 Oktober 2012 (WIB)

it.wiki in trouble, once again, this time is worse than last year

Hi, this is just to let you know that the dangerous law that wasn't issued last year, when we blacked-out the site, is once again under discussion at the Italian Senate. This time things seem to be much much worse than one year ago. The act is now harder and contains many more obligations, so many and so dangerous that no sysops would work at such conditions because it would definitely be too risky. Very few among our users would go on editing BLPs or "spicy" topics any more because it could be very costly: up to 100,000 euros! And any legalised troll saying that something in our articles disturbs him, would be entitled to request an addition (inside the article) which actually we are not going to accept because the troll is not required to be honest and tell the truth, any liar would be legally welcomed and we couldn't even comment... (I'm not kidding, it's incredible but true...)
Moreover, this time the approval could more probably be forced by the so-called technical government (headed by Mr. Monti), and all the bigger Italian parties toghether (Berlusconians hands in hands with former communists - both had separately tried to enforce such an act before) are working for strengthening the act. So, this time we need a critical help from anyone, we need it now because the scheduled vote on next Monday could be the last time we can freely work on it.wiki. We need it strong because main Italian media are simply ignoring our protest, and we can't read any news about it outside the web.
So, please, please, please, do whatever you can in order to avoid at least that this can happen in a complete silence. Inform your deputy, call the closest Italian embassy, spam your papers and/or our Senators (open individual files for addresses), use your fantasy and do whatever you think might be strongly helpful in protecting Wikipedia, starting from spreading the news across the WikiWorld.
Any little thing you can do will be vitally important for it.wiki.
Thank you in advance --g (talk) 00:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Very worrying development. I guess we can set a Sitenotice at the very least. Are there any websites that give further information about this proposed law? Gombang (bicara) 27 Oktober 2012 06.26 (UTC)

Kobalima, Belu or Kobalima, Malaka?

Dear colleagues, I wrote yesterday an article in German Wikipedia about Indonesian Kecamatan Kobalima in Western Timor. According to this sources, it is part of Kabupaten Belu, but when I connected it to id-article, I found Kobalima, Malaka. I moved the article to Kobalima, Belu, because there was no source given, and jv, map-bms and ms are putting Kobalima to Belu. There are no maps, showing a Kabupaten Malaka on Timor. But now, I am not sure.

1. Was there a change?
2. Was Belu only splitted or are there further changes on Timor?
3. Does a new complete online list of all Kabuapaten, Kecamaten, Kelurahan and Desa exist?
4. By the way: Is there a difference between Kelurahan and Desa?
   

Greetings from Germany, --J. Patrick Fischer (bicara) 27 Januari 2013 09.52 (UTC)

1. Malaka is a newly created "kabupaten" (regency), and some "kecamatan" of Belu are reclassified as Malaka's (since Dec 14, 2012). See:

• Kabupaten Malaka adalah salah satu kabupaten di provinsi Nusa Tenggara Timur, Indonesia. Malaka merupakan hasil pemekaran dari Kabupaten Belu yang disahkan dalam sidang paripurna DPR RI pada 14 Desember 2012 di gedung DPR RI tentang Rancangan UU Daerah Otonomi Baru (DOB).
• http://wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Kobalima,_Belu&action=history clearly shows a recent move.

Therefore I suggest the articles in other Wikipedias follows this move, and I will move Kobalima, Belu back to Kobalima, Malaka. ‑Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ ^{｢bincang｣} 10.13, 28 Januari 2013 (WIB)

2. As far as I know that's the only new regency in Timor.

3. Yes. Daftar kabupaten dan kota di Indonesia for regency/city level. For kecamatan, and kelurahan/desa, we're still working on it.

4. Kelurahan is smaller in size than Desa, but on the same level. ‑Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ ^｢bicara｣ 10.16, 28 Januari 2013 (WIB)

Thank you. 3. I meant an official online list, useable as reference. ;-) --J. Patrick Fischer (bicara) 28 Januari 2013 12.00 (UTC)

For kabupaten/kota and kecamatan

• http://www.kemendagri.go.id/produk-hukum/2012/01/12/kode-dan-data-wilayah-administrasi-pemerintahan PDF

For kelurahan/desa

• http://www.kemendagri.go.id/pages/data-wilayah <- each province's PDF has the complete list of kelurahan/desa (2010's data)

Other user might have some other resource? I remember I compiled a shortlist of useful links a while ago and put it somewhere in my sub-userpage. I'll try to find out some more links for you. Here it goes! ‑Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ ^｢komen｣ 21.10, 28 Januari 2013 (WIB)

A while ago, I started a list of kecamatan/desa from the westernmost province of Indonesia: Daftar kecamatan dan gampong di Aceh ("gampong" is akin to "desa" in Acehnese language), and hoping that other editor could continue finishing the list. It would not be hard since I've documented the steps, and only requires a minimal knowledge of Indonesian language. Maybe I could interest you in completing the lists? ‑Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ ^{｢mufakat｣} 21.30, 28 Januari 2013 (WIB)

Some maps with the new borders in Western Timor would be useful, too. German map factory would make some in Wiki-style, if sources woul be available. --J. Patrick Fischer (bicara) 29 Januari 2013 12.00 (UTC)

Unfortunately, our community is rather weak at maps-finding and maps-making... Try Google Image: https://www.google.com/search?q=kabupaten+malaka&source=lnms&tbm=isch. ‑Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ ^｢komen｣ 22.28, 29 Januari 2013 (WIB)

Block of Pengguna:Hindustanilanguage

Hi, Pengguna:Hindustanilanguage was blocked indefinitely for this single edit at id-wp where he updated a link to an image on Commons which had been renamed. No communication with the blocked user has been attempted. Edits like this are regular maintenance work undertaken by volunteers at Commons on other projects. It would be kind if you could reconsider this and/or comment at this thread at Commons. Thanks, AFBorchert (bicara) 14 Februari 2013 07.46 (UTC) (admin at Wikimedia Commons)

Thanks. Over here there are several admins who are overzealous about usernames and tend to block on preventive basis, sometimes without giving the user a chance to defend themselves. And we have a backlog of 0 users to be blocked because of their names. I'll look personally into this matter and unblock the user myself if Imanuel doesn't respond in one day. And apologize to Hindustanilanguage for the inconvenience. ‑Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ ^{｢komunikasi｣} 16.50, 14 Februari 2013 (WIB)

Thank you for your help, Bennylin. The block has meanwhile been lifted and this matter can therefore be considered resolved. Regards, AFBorchert (bicara) 14 Februari 2013 12.15 (UTC)

possible duplicate pages

While looking up labels for Wikidata for Q29304, I came across Taman Nasional Wakatobi. Translating the title got me to "Wakatobi National Park" who's interwiki links on the English Wikipedia (here) links to Taman Nasional Kepulauan Wakatobi. The two pages seem to be on the same topic. If this is a merge issue, it also effects the Basa Jawa wiki which has the same issue and Basa Sunda wiki which would need changed to correct interwiki list. Creol (bicara) 9 Maret 2013 19.23 (UTC)

Hmm. According to Indonesian Forestry Ministry site here, the correct name for Wakatobi National Park is Taman Nasional Wakatobi. So I will move the contents of Taman Nasional Kepulauan Wakatobi to the correct name first. SpartacksCompatriot ^{lapak stensil} 9 Maret 2013 23.15 (UTC)

Fixed here and fixed in Wikidata. SpartacksCompatriot ^{lapak stensil} 9 Maret 2013 23.23 (UTC)

Train time table in Java April 2013

I have uploaded the newest train time tables in Java in my website. You may refer to the URL. As far as possible I have updated time schedules. http://www42.tok2.com/home/omdoyok/Indonesia/Aind-12/Aind-12.htm

The other articles about Indonesia in English are here: http://www42.tok2.com/home/omdoyok/Indonesia/AhIndonIndexE.htm

Thanks Om Doyok alias Sh. Taguchi@Japan

Kabupaten Maluku Barat Daya

Leti islands

Dear colleagues, Tiakur (in Kecamatan Moa Lakor) on Pulau Moa is according this document is the capital of Kabupaten Maluku Barat Daya. But I couldn'tfind any map or coordinates online. There are 11.400 hits on google about Tiakur, but no information, wher it s situated. Can somebody help? Greetings, --J. Patrick Fischer (bicara) 2 April 2013 20.39 (UTC)

Could this help? SpartacksCompatriot ^{lapak stensil} 3 April 2013 13.36 (UTC)

Thank you! --J. Patrick Fischer (bicara) 15 April 2013 16.24 (UTC)

Copyright question

Please see m:Forum#.22By_permission_only.22_images_on_Indonesian_Wikipedia. PiRSquared17 (bicara) 18 April 2013 03.19 (UTC)

Population of Indonesian Kabupaten, Kecamatan and Desa

According this list has Kabupaten Belu 86.863 inhabitants, but it must be more (sth around 400.000). Same problem apears on other Kabupaten, too, like Kabupaten Alor. Can anybody explain this? Has anybody internet sources about population and area of the Indonesian administrative areas? --J. Patrick Fischer (bicara) 27 Juli 2013 15.54 (UTC)

Pura Timur or Pura Tengaah?

According this list the name of Desa Pura Tengah, Pulau Pura, Alor is Pura Timur. What is right? --J. Patrick Fischer (bicara) 27 Juli 2013 15.54 (UTC)

German Wikipedia started project

We started a project to write articles about all Indonesian administrative areas in German Wikipedia. If someone has onilnes osurces and/or want to help us, you can find us here: de:Portal Diskussion:Indonesien#Projekt Geographie Indonesiens. Greetings, --J. Patrick Fischer (bicara) 27 Juli 2013 15.54 (UTC)